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Speed Trick B

Discussion in 'The Sesh' started by azleonhart, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. Jasper B.

    Jasper B. Slayer

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    Wait WHUUUUUT????
     
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  2. goenKendama

    goenKendama Administrator Staff Member

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    Congrats dude. Still under 45 secs with a couple of goofs means you're golden.
     
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  3. azleonhart

    azleonhart Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks man!
    I feel like STB is like solving a Rubik’s cube : once you solve it, the only way forward is to solve it faster!
    Hope to shave enough to make it to the 30s club.
     
    Sep 4, 2017
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  4. Stuart Barron

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    Just need those 1000 moshi kami now!

    Good job on the STB man.
     
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  5. azleonhart

    azleonhart Moderator Staff Member

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    Updated the first post and added the list of tricks, let me know if you want to add on to it!
     
    Sep 9, 2017
  6. Dama_lacing

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    Looks like a really fun ladder. Definitely going to try it out
     
    Sep 9, 2017
  7. Nick Lectura

    Nick Lectura Moderator Staff Member

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    I think its harder because you're thinking "alright I have to insta this bird" I found that when I tell myself I'm just doing a regular bird and then I quickspike afterwards, its easier than telling myself "ok insta this bird to save time"
     
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  8. Lynse_sng

    Lynse_sng n00b

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    good way to break in ur damas since there's so many variaties of tricks i managed to get a 31sec run but it wasn't on tape :( i'll get one on tape soon i guess
     
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  9. goenKendama

    goenKendama Administrator Staff Member

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    I received a reply about Timed Kyogi B (Speed Trick B) and other questions from a JKA judge. Here is an excerpt from his reply:

    Who invented that challenge?
    I cannot find who invented Speed tricks. But it was used NKK (Nihon Kendama Kyokai; it is the old abbreviation of JKA) cup competition in 1978. I guess it was invented by steering committee of NKK.

    What is the quickest speed recorded?
    There were National competition of speed tricks, but they were held only for several times and not held continuously. After that there are several records of speed trick B, but they are not treated as individual record. Because it is used as the final trick to settle the competition. In other words, it is important which player is faster rather than its record.

    Are there other speed tricks?
    Yes, there are several speed tricks as below.

    Speed trick A: 1) Big cup, 2) Small cup, 3) Base cup, 4) Candle, 5) Spike, 6) Swing in, 7) Slip on Stick, 8) Around Japan, 9) Around the World, 10) Airplane
    Speed trick C: 1) Around village, 2) Around town, 3) Around city, 4) Around prefecture, 5) Around region, 6) Around Japan, 7) Around Asia, 8) Around Europe, 9) Around the world, 10) Around the cosmos

    Standard time:
    Speed trick A: 60 sec
    Speed trick B: 120 sec
    Speed trick C: 90 sec

    Standard times are used to calculate player’s point.
    Point = Standard time – Player’s time

    If you finish 10 tricks of Speed trick C after 73 sec, your point is 90-73=17 point.


    Please see tricks for Speed trick C as below.
    Around village: Big cup - spike
    Around town: On stick - spike
    Around city: Small cup - spike
    Around prefecture: Base cup - spike
    Around region: Big cup – spike – base cup – spike, or Base cup – spike – big cup - spike
    Around Japan: same as Speed trick B
    Around Asia: Small cup – spike – big cup – spike, or Big cup – spike – small cup - spike
    Around Europe: same as Speed trick B
    Around the world: same as Speed trick B
    Around the cosmos: same as dan- examination

    There are Speed trick X, Y, Z, M, N as well, and maybe more.
     
    Sep 14, 2017
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  10. Rob

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    Thought I'd post the harder variation of STB that Void and I came up with a year ago.
    Named "Speed Trick Bastard"

    (vid underneath)
    http://juggling.tv/16050
     
    Oct 26, 2017
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  11. James Hoang

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    What do you mean by JKA approved completes? You mean in terms of what kendama to use?
     
    Nov 26, 2017
  12. azleonhart

    azleonhart Moderator Staff Member

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    Yessir!
    Basically, JKA approved ken and tamas
     
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  13. johndmc

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    Just wondering, do the arounds have to be consecutive..
     
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  14. azleonhart

    azleonhart Moderator Staff Member

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    For Around Japan and Around the World, yes.
     
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  15. johndmc

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    I don't know if I phrased my question correctly. I think what I was trying to say was that do the successful attempts need to be consecutive. For example if you land one, then miss one and landed the next, would that count. Or would you need two successful attempts together in order to progress to the next trick.
     
    Dec 12, 2017
  16. azleonhart

    azleonhart Moderator Staff Member

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    You phrased the question correctly indeed.
    In regards to your statement, the latter is true.

    Think of the Around Japan as a set.
    It must be done twice, consecutively to count.
    If you miss the final spike at the second Around Japan, you need to restart the set.
    The above is also true for the Around the World.
     
    Dec 12, 2017
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  17. johndmc

    johndmc Member

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    Coool thanks for the clarification, I did think that it would be that way to be honest. I'll keep grinding
     
    Dec 12, 2017
  18. Emil Apostol

    Emil Apostol DS Legend

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    Here's my speed trick B! I timed it at around 37 seconds. :)
     
    May 26, 2018
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  19. goenKendama

    goenKendama Administrator Staff Member

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    Been working on this again but, yeah, I'll never see this kind of clock. :eek:

    (should start at the actual timed run)
     
    Sep 20, 2020
  20. goenKendama

    goenKendama Administrator Staff Member

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