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First Lunar...Almost!!

Discussion in 'The Sesh' started by lategreat808, Dec 16, 2016.

  1. lategreat808

    lategreat808 DS Legend

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    I grabbed a Lunar for like 2 seconds and almost had it. Any weird Lunar tips that might not be on any tutorials? Probably would have stuck one if I didn't have to go to Rogue One, Star Wars ruins everything.
     
    Dec 16, 2016
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  2. Cheech_Sander

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    Don't try to balance like a lighthouse... instead work on "freezing" your body once you cushion it into the lunar landing. once it's there don't move!
     
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  3. lategreat808

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    That's kinda what I do naturally but I think I have more trouble with the pull up. I just can't stick the pull quite right. It's always too shallow on the front side of the tama.
     
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  4. Ben Lowe

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    The pull up is everything. I watched a lot of videos of people doing the pull-up. For me, what was never really mentioned in the tutorials was a very sharp, quick, diagonally downward pull toward yourself to get the ken to swing into the right position. Don't swing out hardly at all when you pull up. I think lots of pros and great players say "its like an airplane" but they forget that those of us that are still on the beginner side of things don't pull up our airplanes the same as they do (usually.) Beginners often do a large arcing swing to airplane, whereas more experienced players just tug in a sharp fashion to bring the ken into the proper orientation. So yeah, I learned the most by watching, not paying attention to tutorial instructions.

    TL;DR - Watch people who are good at the pull up, try to emulate that as much as possible, even down to the very small details.
     
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  5. lategreat808

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    Dude!!! Totally, I have been watching a lot of tutorials on it and it is way different from watching them than what a lot of them say. It's ALL in the pull and there is basically no swing out at all, which is the exact opposite of aeroplanes, although I'm starting to pull those straight up too
     
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  6. Ben Lowe

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    Haha, when this clicked for me, everything changed. I didn't get better immediately, but it sure helped me move forward a bit more than before, because I was super frustrated and stuck.
     
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  7. lategreat808

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  8. lategreat808

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    @Ben Lowe , it was the diagonal slightly down ward tug that made all the difference. I started catching the ken deeper on the tama and then found the sweet spot from there. Lunars are super hard to hone in on but I'm getting there.
     
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  9. Ben Lowe

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    Right on man, that's awesome! Congrats! Yeah when I hit my first one it was the breakthrough moment, but I could still not hit them very consistently AT ALL. But at least I knew what it felt like and that's a big part of it. Keep grinding!
     
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  10. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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    Right on! First lunar is always a battle.

    @Ben Lowe someone I was playing dama with recently said that when they started, all of their friends said "airplane" for a big swinging arc airplane, and they would say "proplane" for a more straight upwards pulled airplane. They called it 'proplane' because they noticed it was the way all of the pros pulled it up in edits. I can't remember who it was that told me this... hmm..
     
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  11. Ben Lowe

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    Ha, I like that. "Proplane." Makes sense to me!
     
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  12. lategreat808

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    I'm guessing they take a little while to get consistent. They say everyone kinda does them a little differently. I have to put a little pressure on the string with my middle finger to get the right pull up. That wouldn't be considered like "cheating" would it @htimSxelA @Ben Lowe ? I turn the tama towards me with tension on the string and then pull up, right when I pull up I use the tension on my middle finger, which is lightly resting on the front end of the tama, to perform that slightly downward diagonal tug.
     
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  13. RyanArthurWalker

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    @Ben Lowe has the right idea. I always explain to people who are learning Lunars that the pull is down and diagonal. We all know how frustrating that trick is to land the first time! Good luck homie
     
    Dec 18, 2016
  14. lategreat808

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    Well I got the first one but i stopped after that. It was a fuck it I'm done kinda moment. They are so hard to get that first time.
     
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  15. htimSxelA

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    Nah, thats all good. I had some friends that used to do that for 1 turn airplanes. I think its legit, doesn't give some weird advantage or anything
     
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  16. lategreat808

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    @htimSxelA ...sweetness. I thought maybe some people would frown on such a maneuver
     
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  17. Ben Lowe

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    @lategreat808 as an encouragement, like a month ago lunars seems nigh impossible for me, but just today I hit my first double lunar flip! You'll be progressing and hitting harder stuff before you know it!
     
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  18. lategreat808

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    @Ben Lowe, can't wait to grab a couple of those. Right now that seems a lot like demonic sorcery...some real 15th century David Blaine type shit.
     
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  19. lategreat808

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    @Ben Lowe ...how much do you practice? You seem to be progressing rapidly. I work about 12 hours a day 7 days a week and have for the past six months but you seem to be getting a lot better in a short amount of time. Perhaps I just don't have the same amount of time to grind things out.
     
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  20. Ben Lowe

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    I practice probably an hour or less each day. I'm very focused in my practice though, and have recently been focusing on very specific tricks. I think the problem I've seen with a lot of folks that want to "progress" is that they try to do every trick under the sun. I've been almost completely ignoring stalls, spacewalk/mooncircle stuff, string stuff, downspike stuff. I will eventually get to all that, but for now I'd rather have some depth in a few select things than a really shallow ability in everything. Not to say that one way is "right" or "wrong" per se, that's just the approach I've decided to take. I think the perception is then that I have progressed a lot, but who is to say that I am really any further along than someone who can do all those things that I mentioned I haven't touched at all? Its all in how you perceive it, if that makes sense.
     
    Dec 19, 2016