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Discussion in 'The Sesh' started by htimSxelA, Nov 16, 2016.

  1. maxdesu

    maxdesu Honed Member

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    I once said that TK changed their shape, but apparently it was a mix up in the production level of things. Apparently when things get busy in China some factories ask other factories to help with their production. There must have been a mix up and they started making the mutant kendamas in a different shape.

    TK admits that they should have checked their products closer (QC.. but who, aside from a player, would have been able to scope that..) and that the mistake should have been caught before they were put on the shelves, but to me it seems like a bit of bad luck that made them lose their license.

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    As John (goen) said, this is all speculation and words coming from a number of sources. Believe what you want to believe!
     
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  2. goenKendama

    goenKendama Moderator Staff Member

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    There's likely a little more to it than just "a bit of bad luck." For example in my understanding a factory that produces JKA certified kendama has to be approved before production. Outsourcing or producing in unapproved factories isn't allowed. That's something that a company selling certified kendama for 20 years would know.

    It is quite possible that both sides of the equation could have handled it better but without adequate information from both parties it is probably better not to try and guess too much. The inner workings of most companies aren't generally common knowledge and while it might be entertaining to speculate it's just that, speculation. An example would be when the Mutants first hit the market. The rumor at KWC that year was that the TK maker had gotten the "license" to produce the old Mugens which wasn't even close to accurate.
     
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  3. maxdesu

    maxdesu Honed Member

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    You are so right. It's a lot of speculation and it can put a lot of dirt on people's faces.
    thanks for the insight on that!
     
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  4. 96817dama

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    Thanks for that response I know it was from a while ago but I'm new here (sorry)

    Anyways I seen the gloken tk16 and imo it looks beech but either way I would prefer the icy tama, with that said, do you know what the meijin is made of? I hope it's full birch :D

    I also picked up a tk16 yesterday and it is labeled made in Japan and the packaging looks different, if anyone knows I really would like to know if this is legit. I already opened it and started shredding it because #destroyalldamas but I have the packaging so I attached pictures.

    Thanks everyone
     
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  5. goenKendama

    goenKendama Moderator Staff Member

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    JKA certified TK16 vs Gloken's version are covered in the post above. From the photos it appears that you have one of the JKA certified "nintei" green seal ones. Packaging changes from time to time so that's less of a consideration. AFAIK the Meijin Takumi are still Birch.
     
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  6. 96817dama

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    thanks for that, hope it's actually made in Japan if not it's ok. I guess I'll have to have family in the Philippines send me some meijin's! :D
     
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  7. goenKendama

    goenKendama Moderator Staff Member

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    Meijin Takumi (like the JKA certified TKs before them) are physically manufactured in China. The older TK16 Master packages marked "made in Japan" would probably be better translated as "assembled in Japan." Each country has their own definition of what constitutes "Made In. . ." so depending on how things are handled on their way to retail shelves determines what is allowable for labeling.
     
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  8. Stuart Barron

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    0BA77432-FA6E-4543-B28B-46061FB71016.jpeg Holy grail located.

    Stumbled on this on eBay the other day and just picked it up!

    One for the OGs

    @htimSxelA
     
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  9. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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    @Stuart Barron oh nice! Hows the tama roundness? Some of the OG ozos are eggy af haha
    Good pickup either way!
     
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  10. Stuart Barron

    Stuart Barron Slayer

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    Read your message and thought I best double check. Tama is fine, and the setup is actually lunar biased, so thats a pleasant change!
    I do have an OG sky blue too and my observations on the leaded paint is it seems almost eggshell like out the packet. I've never done more than a few tricks here and there on the blue, but I definitely think I'll sesh this leaf green and see what all the fuss is about. Not much for bevel licking so I should be ok ;)
     
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  11. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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    lol, yea I guess bevel licking those might be dangerous. When you really play them in, they get a nice grip. At least for an oldschool dama, they won't be as grippy as what people today are used to :p
     
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  12. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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  13. goenKendama

    goenKendama Moderator Staff Member

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    Here's an updated version of the seals chart. The one from the JKA English History will be updated soon.

     
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