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Ozora or TK16?

Discussion in 'The Sesh' started by Jun. I, Nov 25, 2016.

  1. Jun. I

    Jun. I Member

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    Hey guys I just wanted to ask if I should get a tk16 natty or a Keyaki ozora. The Keyaki is about double the price (I'm buying from Amazon) so which one should I get. Personally haven't tried either birch or Keyaki natties so I thought maybe I should pick one or both of them up for my next purchase.
     
    Nov 25, 2016
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  2. damon

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    Yaki! Though TK's are a close second, nothing beats a fresh oz! Especially if it's keyaki. Super durable, breaks in amazing, and it smells fantastic.
     
    Nov 25, 2016
  3. bonerkid

    bonerkid Honed Member

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    I have played a bunch of painted TK's, but never a natty.
    I know a lot of my friends would recommend both the TK and the Keyaki really high though

    My only comment would be that I think the TK tama bevel is on the small side (nothing you can't fix), don't know about the ozora.
    But in the end I'd recommend the TK, just because it is a perfectly good/pretty great kendama at a low price. Save some money for the next one, that's what I usually try to do.
     
    Nov 25, 2016
  4. RyanArthurWalker

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    Ugh this is a difficult choice but I would go with the Yaki ozora!
     
    Nov 25, 2016
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  5. Ben Lowe

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    I've wanted a Keyaki for a long time. Unless I'm mistaken (which is very possible) I don't think there are a lot of other kendamas out there that you can get in Keyaki. Ozoras are great, so it would really be hard to go wrong there. I'm getting my first TK this weekend, so I don't know how to compare the two, but I love my ozora.
     
    Nov 25, 2016
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  6. Joel Clayton

    Joel Clayton Honed Member

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    I like Ozoras shape way more.
     
    Nov 25, 2016
  7. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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    Yea, Keyaki wood isn't very common, so its really only the Japanese brands that make them. You can find Keyaki Ozoras, Shin Fujis, Sangas, Jaks, and Musous. Japan doesn't really export wood, they're a small island so their forestry industry is small and domestic-oriented.
     
    Nov 25, 2016
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  8. Giulian Tena

    Giulian Tena Honed Member

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    Kendama syndicate is selling a Keyaki Shenzu for only $10 right now
     
    Nov 25, 2016
  9. lategreat808

    lategreat808 DS Legend

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    I would say go with the keyaki simply based on the fact that it will last a lot longer. The ozora keyaki is very slick out of the box though and will take a number of hours to break in.
    But to further point out...they do have that Shenzu for $10 on syndicate but they also have an awesome Yumu beech natty for the same price. Yumu natty is really good...just saying
     
    Dec 7, 2016
  10. sorrywongnumber

    sorrywongnumber Honed Member

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    Terra Painted Yaki Oozie, amazing set-up but sad it has a chip :(
     
    Dec 7, 2016
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  11. Aloysius_hung_

    Aloysius_hung_ Honed Member

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    Ozora has bigger bevel than tk16 which has incredibly small bevel my friend's tk 16 chipped and broke really quick altho its said they are really durable. I would recommend ozora
     
    Dec 24, 2016
  12. Jewbacca

    Jewbacca Honed Member

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    OZ till the end
     
    Dec 24, 2016
  13. KeeganS

    KeeganS DS Legend

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    I've noticed a couple brands outside japan that do offer keyaki resemble more elm wood (which kind of makes sense since keyaki is a japanese elm) than what you'd see from ozora. In my pic from left to right i have my ozora keyaki, HNL keyaki, and Sol dark elm. The HNL keyaki is closer to appearance to the Sol elm. Could be how they treat the wood or something else, idk. image.jpg
     
    Dec 24, 2016
  14. Koisuru Stephen

    Koisuru Stephen Honed Member

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    Neither are a bad choice. But imo it would be good to own a keyaki if its that cheap. It's really hard so playing it natty will get you really honed.

    The JAC new shape keyaki is the fire-est kendama I've ever owned.
     
    Dec 24, 2016
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  15. NicholasPereira

    NicholasPereira Honed Member

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    From what I understand, the "keyaki" Shenzu's are really closer to a type of elm. It won't be the same as the Japanese keyaki.
     
    Dec 25, 2016
  16. grilledcrab

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    Get the Keyaki Ozora if:

    (1) You don't mind it's unusual smell(it smells herb-like but the scent would gradually be fainter once you play it)
    (2) Want a very unique clack experience- it's really unlike any other wood- I would say on the lighter crispy side
    (3) Admire it's beautiful grain which only gets darker and more pronounced as it soaks in your palm oils
    (4) You are a fan of the ozora shape (which is pretty much the classic lauded shape) It also has a wider bevel


    Get a TK16 Natty if:

    (1) You want something that is extremely durable, they are crazy tanks and fantastic for bashing
    (2) Wish to train your spikes- as the bevel is smaller and forces you to be more precise.
    (3) Don't mind it's iciness- its really hard to break in a natty tk16 but isn't every other natty..
    (4) It's solid clacks are extremely satisfying, cause it's birch.

    I'd say if your budget permits, just go for the keyaki cause it's rarer whereas a tk16 natty is more commonly found but either way it would be a decision you won't regret much cause both kendamas are really good jammers. :>
     
    Dec 25, 2016
  17. James Hoang

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    I've never played either, but to be honest, I've seen more people wth keyakis over TK-16s. Ozora's a brand that many people trust, but TK's are super durable, so if you drop your kendama a lot or you stab the tama and "spike hard catch low", then get a TK-16. If you like grain, the crisp sound of spikes, and just Ozora overall, then get the keyaki. Not many brands offer keyaki, so snag it while you can!
     
    Dec 25, 2016