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What’s an ideal spike length and ways it affects play

Discussion in 'The Sesh' started by Trenton Jayce, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. Trenton Jayce

    Trenton Jayce n00b

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    Ive noticed after my collection of damas has increased that the spike are different lengths. So I was curious what people’s preferences are on the lengths of them and how they can affect different play. (Also I got my wisdom teeth out and can’t do anything so this seemed like a solid topic to talk about)
     
    Dec 22, 2017
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  2. ttocsic

    ttocsic Slayer

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    longer spike= better lunar balance

    but besides that its really all preference.
     
    Dec 22, 2017
  3. Trenton Jayce

    Trenton Jayce n00b

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    I’ve noticed that longer spikes kindve get in the way with stilts so would a shorter spike make it hitting your finger less of a problem but harder to land in general???
     
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  4. ttocsic

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    maybe so, I don't really know if the spike makes much of a difference. I was actually just doing insta-stilts right before this with a pretty short spike on my sol flow, so I don't think they are harder to land with a short spike, but I'd like to hear opinions from other people as well.
     
    Dec 22, 2017
  5. Trenton Jayce

    Trenton Jayce n00b

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    Im still a bit mediocre at dama like I’m learning silt flip now but that’s definitely interesting. About about like birds tricks???
     
    Dec 22, 2017
  6. ttocsic

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    When I say insta-stilts, i mean insta stilt flip to in, not to stilt. I can't do stilt flips yet either. I don't know if spike length matters for birds unless the spike is really short.
     
    Dec 22, 2017
  7. goenKendama

    goenKendama Moderator Staff Member

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    ~42mm-45mm seems to be my preference. Really long and they feel weird and slingers don't work well for me.
     
    Dec 22, 2017
  8. Andy Dama

    Andy Dama Honed Member

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    I'd say if you don't prefer a really long spike, don't jam your cups down, and keep the string out of the hole
     
    Dec 22, 2017
  9. KeeganS

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    I’ve had the opposite experience where my damas with slightly - much longer spikes have helped a lot with stilts.
    I rarely mess with them but I definitely noticed a pattern with the longer spikes helping more than inhibiting.
     
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  10. Sirwillcode

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    I think it is preference mostly. But, if your tama doesn't touch the top the of the sarado when it's on the spike, it's prolly too long. I have a couple like that and it's weird. There shouldn't be a gap when it's spiked.

    In my experience, stubby spikes tend to make for bad loons and better slingers. Prolly mentioned above.
     
    Dec 22, 2017
  11. Trenton Jayce

    Trenton Jayce n00b

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    I’ve noticed it’s better for slings too. I got a Sweets prime for secret Santa lol and the spike shorter than my honed damas
     
    Dec 22, 2017
  12. rhysgoespeace

    rhysgoespeace Member

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    Some people think that short spikes help with earth turns and jumping sticks, but I’m kinda indifferent.
    I’ve had the opposite experience - short spikes generally make better slingers for me. I’m guessing that the main reason they sling so well the the massive sarado. (But I don’t have one, so I wouldn’t know.)
     
    Dec 23, 2017
  13. ttocsic

    ttocsic Slayer

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    Primes SLING FOR DAYS!! My prime is easily my go-to sling dama. Too bad It's so bad for loons:(
     
    Dec 23, 2017
  14. xplodit

    xplodit Slayer

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    I agree with you guys:

    Short spike - Great gunslingers, bad Lunars
    Long spike- Great Lunars, harder too dodge your finger in a stilt

    There shouldn’t be a gap between Serrado and Tama when spiked.
     
    Dec 23, 2017
  15. Jasper B.

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    This has been my experience too
     
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  16. goenKendama

    goenKendama Moderator Staff Member

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    Been playing some "next gen" kendama lately and noticed that the larger tama hole/bevel seems to make it more likely that the ken will jump out. Very seldom had that problem with more traditional hole designs.
     
    Jan 7, 2019