I don't know whether I'm talking in the right forum or not but this topic has been haunting me for almost a year now. I just can't help to discuss it with anyone rather than just thinking about it by myself. Sorry, I'm not really active in the Downspike Community but I hope I have more time to dig into the forum. I'm just too busy with my daylilace and my life. Go check my instagram if you haven't Currently on my Day 261. Okay, enough introduction. Anyway, let's jump into the topic. As we all already know, letting the ken touching our hand while doing lighthouse or lunar, or touching the tama while doing underbird and all that dirty stuff is a terrible thing. It's actually "useful" to help you maintain the loon or lighty from slipping off the tama especially when we are using natty tama or slick paint like JKA's Ozora. But talking about this kind of "stopping power", sticky paint and sticky cups is also another form of handicap for stopping the lighty or loon to slip away. It's just not so obvious like doing handed trick. But the friction is too strong that sometimes it's like gripping the ken more than it naturally do. Somehow it looks like an invisible hand that prevent the separation between tama and ken. This thing makes me think. I personally don't like sticky paint, and imo sticky cup is too much. But sometimes I realize that I'm suck and I need to use sticky paint to help me land loon or lighty easier. And again, it makes me think. Is sticky paint considered cheating? I don't know, but I feel like it is. In other hand I realize that it's a matter of satisfaction. It's more rewarding to be able to land a dub or trip loon flip on natty or slick painted tama rather than sticky painted one. But sticky paint with less satisfaction helps us to unlock something that's so difficult to master. I need to hear your opinion about this cause I know I'm just a noob, and need to learn more from all of you. Anyway, sorry I'm not a native English speaker. Sorry for my poor English.