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Lets push the limit of what is allowed

Discussion in 'The Sesh' started by htimSxelA, Jul 1, 2017.

  1. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm thinking of trying something out, after seeing the new Musou in another thread. How ridiculous can we get, designing a dama that still is legal for use in KWC?


    Every year at KWC, Gloken basically sets the standard for what is or isn't allowed, and it is largely determined by what 'fits in the box'. There are some additional rules too:

    (From the GLOKEN site)
    – You can use any regular-sized kendama (ken cannot be taller than 17 cm / 6.7 inches), enjoy playing with your favorite kendama. We will put Kendama World Cup 2017 sticker after “Dama-Check”.
    – Hole of tama must be ONE, except a string hole. Not allowed to have more than one spike and three cups. Also, the diameter of the bevel shall be within 23.5 mm (0.925 inches).
    – Removable attachments (accessories) can not be removed or replaced within a 3 minute challenge time.
    ※Use of fixed or implanted removal attachments without making the kendamas shape different are accepted.
    – Up to THREE kendamas per player can be passed “Dama-Check” for the Kendama World Cup 2017.
    – Keep kendamas in excellent condition to avoid any trouble during the play. Changes of kendama in the middle of competition are NOT allowed.


    Sooo what about cutting the top of the bird ridges to be completely flat? Or wrapping the bird ridges in grip tape? How BIG can we make big cup? Metal weights implanted into the ken?

    What can you all come up with? I'll see if I can make some kendamas to the designs we think of, and try to get them KWC-certified :p
     
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  2. Gasiek

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    Yeah, i was thinking exactly the same @htimSxelA when I first saw and played a slaydawg. I was thinking in which way the kendama is going. Tacky paints, huge cups and big bevel, everything to make kendama easier. What is the point? I rally admire players like Ben Herald, playing on natty and doing great tricks. I know it has things like bigger cups, but it is natty. Also I am playing on sweets prime, because it is easier to catch tricks, and it is really good to play. But in which direction is it going?
     
    Jul 1, 2017
  3. Sir Spike

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    This is great! I just replied to your post in a different thread about how mods concern me.
     
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  4. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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    To be fair, a well-worked in natty plays better than any paint, really. A fresh natty tama will often be slick as hell, but with the right wood and work-in, they can get epic!
     
    Jul 1, 2017
  5. Eric H

    Eric H Honed Member

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    I just got a craft plus 2.0 and am working on breaking it in. I already have a craft plus slim with a slaydawg tama on it. Any tips (besides sweat) for breaking in a natty?
     
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  6. Nick Lectura

    Nick Lectura Moderator Staff Member

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    Birch and raw ash is a godly combo, so playing that combo (which the GT-BH is) is honestly better than paint.
     
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  7. Stuart Barron

    Stuart Barron Slayer

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    I've often wondered, that if you were to use the Gloken box as jelly mould would it even look like a kendama?
     
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  8. Tofurush

    Tofurush n00b

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    You could hollow out most of the ken and shove some electronic components in there; just some battery connectors and some sort of PCB. It'll be wired to electromagnets embedded inside the cups and other stall points. The tama will have some sort metal embedded it in (or just be made out of it) so that it will be attracted to the ken when the magnets are activated.

    The setup will have a remote controlled on/off switch which the player can hold in their other hand, so that they will be able to release the magnets when they need to toss the ball or ken.

    Hopefully the magnets will be strong enough that people will be able to land completely horizontal, sideways lighthouses. :rolleyes:
     
    Jul 1, 2017
  9. Congarranza

    Congarranza DS Legend

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    Patience. Take advantage of the summer months. When you are not playing (for whatever odd reason) hold the tama in your hands.
     
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  10. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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    Thats what I'm talking about!
    (except for the actually making it part... that would be a task!)
     
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  11. Congarranza

    Congarranza DS Legend

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    Just from the description, sounds like it meets the KWC requirements. Just make sure batteries are fully charged because you can't change them out during the 3 minute period. I also think this setup would benefit with a bungee string ;) so any "miss" just gets yanked right back into position.
     
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  12. Edric Owen Ladera

    Edric Owen Ladera Slayer

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    i was thinking chain some tricks so that we don't have to start again swing or pull up something, unless it's specifically said to the trick that it starts a pull up...
     
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  13. Congarranza

    Congarranza DS Legend

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    @azleonhart has mentioned in the past about using a rotary tool to create an extra notch under small cup for added gunslinger support. Relieving the bit of weight from the small cup side will enhance lunar stability.
     
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  16. Congarranza

    Congarranza DS Legend

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    Hahaha!! That's so good! I have seen it only on the internet, never in real life.
     
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  17. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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    Chaining tricks isn't allowed, you have to start from hanging each time.
    I'm actually not sure it explicitly says that online, but I know it will be the rule
     
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  18. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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    Thats very in line with what I'm talking about! I remember seeing these a couple years ago. Li-Ho was already slinger-lord, with this ken in his hand, it was crazy the sort of tricks he could pull!
     
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  19. Nick Lectura

    Nick Lectura Moderator Staff Member

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    Does this mean that you have to reset with your hand before going into another trick? Like can you "flow" into other tricks if possible?

    I remember in Wyatt Bray's KWC run that he does 2 turn cush in, and then he goes immediately into the forward moon throw to house from there without resetting with his hand (see trick below)

    Is this allowed or do you have to stop, reset with your other hand, and then proceed with the trick?
     
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  20. azleonhart

    azleonhart Moderator Staff Member

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    While we are living in 2017, KDX has been living in 3017.
    Gentlemen, i present to you, the Gantz kendama.

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    Jul 5, 2017